November 21, 2024

35 thoughts on “Yankees.com: Skenes, Gil win Rookie of the Year in a pairing not seen since 1981”

    1. Do they? I thought, like Dominguez, he wouldn’t net them the pick due to being on the ML IL.

      Either way, great for gil and the Yankees. Definitely a surprise.

      And helped by Wells’ nose dive

    1. I don’t think that’s fair. He wouldn’t have traded him over Vazquez or Brito, for instance. It’s true that he would have traded him over King, for sure, but that would have been the right call.

      So how would it be a knock on Cash that NO ONE thought Gil was ready?

    3. It’s POSSIBLE he was behind those two in the asset department heading into 2024, true, but those guys were both high in the asset department, so I think they still liked him well enough. They gave him a real shot at winning the #5 spot, for instance.

    1. He has a 94 OPS+ just the previous season, and he raked in the minors. Seems like a fair enough minor league signing, although yes, I hope he doesn’t make the Opening Day roster.

  7. Congrats to Gil. I think his stellar first half pushed him over the top. Cowser was just pretty good all season long. Gil was lights out spectacular and then merely good enough, plus working more innings than he ever had. Cowser may have had a luckier 2nd half than first as his BABIP increased from .270 to .363. I think in a normal year, there would have been a clear cut favorite but there wasn’t. Nice year for the Yankees development staff though.

    1. I agree. Similar to weighting prime-years dominance in HoF consideration. If you weight indications of future upside when considering this year’s performance, Gil is the clear choice.
      So – congratulations to Gil!
      Makes me think of Joba, of course. But already beat the Brian Taylor mark, so there’s that.
      (PS – there’s a real chance he can be better – his problems are clear, and it’s all the kind of thing that can resolve with more experience, more reps, more comfort and confidence.)

  9. It’s super douchey, but I guess I sort of get the “Not on the Top 100 prospects lists” aspect of it, because the rule really was designed specifically to reward teams for promoting TOP prospects, ya know?

    2. The intent of the rule was to hopefully make teams promote their top prospects so as to not keep them in the minors to manipulate their service time.

      Skenes, for instance, didn’t net the Pirates an extra pick, either, since they held him until May, but what’s funny is that by winning, he STILL got the full year of service, so the Pirates fucked themselves. Nice to see.

    3. Yeah I think it’s mostly fine, it just sucks that gil/Yankees lost out due to injury/surgery.

    4. Yeah, except some guys ranked 80-100 really aren’t top prospects, so it is a joke, as guys 101-125 or so are just as good prospects as 81-100 in most instances. And if you hold back a player over service time, he can still win ROY the next season.

  10. By the way, apparently the Mets’ $660 million offer was over 15 years, so that’s “just” $44 million a year.

    The Yankees can easily beat $44 million a year, I don’t know that they’d want to go 15 years, though.

    14 years/$48 million is $672 million. I imagine Boras wants that “$700 million” offer, so I guesssssss you could go 15 years/$46.661 to get him to $700 million.

    1. Dodgers reportedly in on Soto. God only knows if it’s a leak to drive up the price for other teams or serious interest because they give zero shits about the tax. But you have to respect the possibility of latter and it should increase the urgency around dollars/years.

      With two other ALE suitors in the mix, I’m not sure I can remember a viable free agent it would be more of a mistake to not blank check. Shohei, sure, but he was never coming anyway. Letting Judge walk as a 30-y/o would’ve been a lesser mistake than not landing Soto.

  12. Nick Pivetta turned down the Bosox QO which is interesting, turning down $21 million for a guy like him.

    They say some value him more than his history should, okay, he K’s quite a few, but other than that, who will give him multi tears at that AAV? Career ERA+ 92

  13. Nick Martinez is the only guy accepting the QO. Smart move on his part, IMO. Very nice payday for him after four seasons in Japan before he returned to MLB in 2022.

  14. New York Yankees “ Today, the Yankees added INF Caleb Durbin and C Jesús Rodríguez to the 40-man roster.
    Additionally, the Yankees received RHP Carson Coleman as a Rule 5 Draft return from Texas.”

    They didn’t protect Messinger or Rumsfeld.

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